tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post5207395567843853525..comments2023-06-29T07:42:33.571-04:00Comments on The Atheist Handbook: God, ethics, and humanism - a debateGrant LaFlechehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00322600090055115479noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-74305159440547550052009-02-20T16:58:00.000-05:002009-02-20T16:58:00.000-05:00Gee, miohippus what ever would that giant outside...Gee, miohippus what ever would that giant outside energy source be? The way I see it, it would probably have to be some sort of massive nuclear furnace that baths the Earth in radiation every day all day....there is a name for a source of energy like that....big, hot...glows...huge gravity field....<BR/><BR/>:-)Grant LaFlechehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00322600090055115479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-72761277577747630762009-02-20T15:54:00.000-05:002009-02-20T15:54:00.000-05:00Micky, tell Grantham that one of the most basic la...Micky, tell Grantham that one of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.Down and Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023416181592985121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-72202447450205762802009-02-19T22:38:00.000-05:002009-02-19T22:38:00.000-05:00Well, Micky can use a dictionary, although I don't...Well, Micky can use a dictionary, although I don't think he gets the joke yet. Keep trying Micky and you might there.Grant LaFlechehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00322600090055115479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-60848363462057168972009-02-19T00:23:00.000-05:002009-02-19T00:23:00.000-05:00Dictionary. ComMiohippusMi`o*hip"pus\, n. [NL., fr...<B>Dictionary. Com</B><BR/><BR/><I>Miohippus</I><BR/><BR/>Mi`o*hip"pus\, n. [NL., fr. Gr. ? less + ? horse.] (Paleon.) An extinct Miocene mammal of the Horse family, closely related to the genus Anhithecrium, and having three usable hoofs on each foot.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940745178193985942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-37785128750655696022009-02-18T18:42:00.000-05:002009-02-18T18:42:00.000-05:00Don't let that evil darwinist Grantham win. What i...Don't let that evil darwinist Grantham win. What is he raging and ranting about? Everyone knows that evolution is a false religion! Look how the banana fits so easily in your hand. How 'bout that huh? It was all designed for us, c'mon Mickey, tell him!Down and Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023416181592985121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-73294947948330410742009-02-17T01:30:00.000-05:002009-02-17T01:30:00.000-05:00Micky, you might just want to look up what a miohi...Micky, you might just want to look up what a miohippus is before you think you were being given support. Sarcasm is apparently beyond you. You're being made fun of, and don't get it.<BR/><BR/>Also, you posted your hell link before, no need to do it again. I don't believe in any sort of hell, therefore you are wasting your time.<BR/><BR/>Finally, please refrain from cutting and pasting long strings of bible passages. I've read the book, I don't need you to be a Jesus drone and just slavish cut and paste parts of it.<BR/><BR/>This will be the last time I tell you this. If you want to address the points made in the essay above, please do so. IF all you are going to do is launch personal insults or take up space using your cut and paste functions, you will no longer be welcome on this blog.Grant LaFlechehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00322600090055115479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-3890468562436508382009-02-16T19:15:00.000-05:002009-02-16T19:15:00.000-05:00Mickey, don't you pay attention to that ranting ra...Mickey, don't you pay attention to that ranting raging Grantham. You are a warrior for Jesus. Now tell Grantham that Jesus died for his sins, or no Armaggeddon for you!Down and Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023416181592985121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-68007111173319853842009-02-15T14:18:00.000-05:002009-02-15T14:18:00.000-05:00The fact, Micky, that you cannot even admit that y...The fact, Micky, that you cannot even admit that you tried to pass someone else's work off as your own, used a fabricated quote from Nietzsche, got Nietzsche's history wrong is very telling. It speaks volumes about you that the best you can come up with from the start is personal insults, threats of hell and bible quotes. How petty. How mundane. How predictable. How utterly Christian of you.<BR/><BR/>Well, you've had your say. And since you have nothing to contribute to this conversation other than being an ass, I invite you to go on your own and pester someone else. IF you want to address the points in my essay fine, but future personal attacks will simply be deleted.Grant LaFlechehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00322600090055115479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-85960529602250094912009-02-15T06:23:00.000-05:002009-02-15T06:23:00.000-05:00I was not "raging" over anything. If you feel "pai...<I>I was not "raging" over anything. If you feel "pain" it should be because you were just dishonest in your previous post. Lets review shall we? I am not raging or in pain. I find it sad and somewhat amusing in a pathetic way... </I><BR/><BR/>Dearest Grant,<BR/>Why are you so defensive?<BR/><BR/>You are a <B>RAGE-A-HOLIC & CONTROL FREAK,</B> who has escaped into his head, because you are too terrified to face your <B>DEMONS.</B><BR/><BR/><B>Romans 1:</B> <I>19 Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them. <BR/><BR/>20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.</I><BR/><BR/><B>Matthew 13:</B> <I>13 Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. <BR/><BR/>14 And the prophecy of Isaias is fulfilled in them, who saith: By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand: and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive. <BR/><BR/>15 For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.</I> <BR/><BR/>What is your excuse, Grant?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940745178193985942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-55211965149309255732009-02-14T14:17:00.000-05:002009-02-14T14:17:00.000-05:00Micky;My name is not Grantham.My childhood was not...Micky;<BR/><BR/>My name is not Grantham.<BR/><BR/>My childhood was not a "chamber of horrors" by any stretch of the imagination, although it says a great deal about your mind set that you appear to believe that only abuse victims would be atheists. Psycho-analysts call that "projecting."<BR/><BR/>Moreover, your attempt at being some sort of therapist speaks, it seems to me, to a huge ego. You don't know me from some bloke you'd pass on the street and yet you feel comfortable enough to say that I have a "conscious fear of intimacy and an unconscious fear of abandonment? " News to my family I'm sure. That you think you could render such a judgement based on nothing demonstrates two things - that your ego is out of control and that you have zero respect for facts and evidence.<BR/><BR/>Or, you're just crazy and need therapy yourself.<BR/><BR/>I was not "raging" over anything. If you feel "pain" it should be because you were just dishonest in your previous post. Lets review shall we? <BR/><BR/>1) Your posting regarding Nietzsche was not your own. You cut and pasted from a apologetic website. It took me all of two minutes to find it. But you passed it off as your own thoughts. Tsk tsk. Don't you Christians have some rule against bearing false witness?<BR/><BR/>2) The posting you cribbed gets Nietzsche all wrong. It gets the thesis behind the book The Anti-Christ totally wrong. It is also plainly clear you have not actually read The Anti-Christ and the Twilight of the Gods. Yet you attempt to pass yourself off as someone who did. There's that false witness thing again.<BR/><BR/>3) The post you cribbed from attempts to make it seem that Nietzsche's philosophical works made him, and others, go insane. When in fact we know why Nietzsche suffered so much in his later years. He had an untreated infection that got into his brain.<BR/><BR/>4) You quote Nietzsche in your cribbed posting. No such quote exists from Nietzsche. It's made up, but you blindly posted it as if it were true - further evidence you have not actually read anything Nietzsche wrote and exposing your our ignorance and your lazy critical thinking skills.<BR/><BR/>4) When confronted by these facts, you refused to acknowledge. Perhaps you think if you were caught in a lie and don't acknowledge it, it doesn't count'? Instead of acknowledge your massive error, you compounded it with your insipid attempt at psychology , making yourself seem less intelligent and smaller than you had previously.<BR/><BR/>I am not raging or in pain. I find it sad and somewhat amusing in a pathetic way, that you apparently feel a need to try and pass someone's els'se writing off a your own to make yourself seems smart.<BR/><BR/>Maybe you were gambling that I had never studied Nietzsche's work, and so could get away with such a thing. Sadly for you, I did, and so you can't.Grant LaFlechehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00322600090055115479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-58330821604082209882009-02-14T13:06:00.000-05:002009-02-14T13:06:00.000-05:00Dear Grant,I felt some pain reading your diatribe ...<B>Dear Grant,</B><BR/>I felt some pain reading your <B>diatribe</B> - I imagine you were <B>raging</B> over your fear, pain & shame.<BR/><BR/>You have conscious fear of intimacy & an unconscious fear of abandonment.<BR/><BR/>The only way you will be <B>redeemed,</B> Grant, is to go back to the <I>"chamber of horrors"</I> - your childhood - and recover <I>"Little Grant"</I> who I imagine you <B>abandoned</B> many years ago.<BR/><BR/>Were you <B>abused</B> as a child, Grantham?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940745178193985942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-70216733305319080372009-02-14T00:21:00.000-05:002009-02-14T00:21:00.000-05:00Dear Micky;Ok, I am going to give you a hint son: ...Dear Micky;<BR/><BR/>Ok, I am going to give you a hint son: If I don't believe in your particular sky god, don't believe in things for which there is no evidence, and sure don't believe in the holy book you subscribe too, why the hell - if you will excuse the phrase - would you think that I would be impressed by threatening me with hell? If I don't believe in a god, why do you think I would believe in a devil? You might as well threaten me with Puff the Magic Dragon.<BR/><BR/>Also if you are going to quote a philosopher I have two other hints for you: 1) quote him correctly. Made up quotes that a philosopher never actually wrote makes you look stupid. 2) Nietzsche did not refer to himself as the anti-Christ. The book's title when translated into English more correctly is read as "The Anti-Christian" and in either case it DOES not refer to the Book of Revelation. and 3) Poor Nietzsche had syphilis which got into his brain. His writing did not drive him or anyone else mad.<BR/><BR/>In other words, Micky, if you want me to take anything you say seriously, come back with something that resembles an argument.Grant LaFlechehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00322600090055115479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-90729991580122548142009-02-13T23:59:00.000-05:002009-02-13T23:59:00.000-05:00Dear Grant, Friedrich Nietzsche called himself “th...<B>Dear Grant,</B><BR/><A HREF="http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/civilization/cc0009.html" REL="nofollow"> Friedrich Nietzsche </A><BR/>called himself “the Anti-Christ,” and wrote a book by that title. <BR/><BR/>He argued for atheism as follows: <I>“I will now disprove the existence of all gods. If there were gods, how could I bear not to be a god? Consequently, there are no gods.” </I><BR/><BR/>...in an old Catholic textbook on modern philosophy, which said only that Nietzsche existed, was an atheist and died insane — <B> a fate which may well await anyone who looks too long into his books.</B> <BR/><BR/>Do you want to end up like Nietzsche, Grant?<BR/><BR/>Do you want to end up <A HREF="http://www.av1611.org/hell.html" REL="nofollow"> here, </A> Grant?<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.gotquestions.org/repentance.html" REL="nofollow"> Repent! </A>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940745178193985942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-32518843539219232142009-02-05T22:11:00.000-05:002009-02-05T22:11:00.000-05:00ha! Thanks Ramon....you are the first person to pi...ha! Thanks Ramon....you are the first person to pick up on that. lol.Grant LaFlechehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00322600090055115479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5275862797940457425.post-23861415488850136912009-02-05T20:35:00.000-05:002009-02-05T20:35:00.000-05:00"trekking off into the undiscovered country"Sorry,..."trekking off into the undiscovered country"<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I'm not done reading yet but that was awesome Grant.Ramon Villaloboshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10892976021117470923noreply@blogger.com